I'm going to skip the whole moral argument that you shouldn't hit on a girl who has a boyfriend. If you don't believe in hitting on girls who have boyfriend then that's cool, otherwise read on.
First, don't even bother with newly engaged or married girls. I think you'll have better chances with a nun than a girl who just made a huge commitment with another man. It takes at least a few months for that to wear out.
That leaves two other types of girls with boyfriends: ones that are unhappy and ones that are neither unhappy nor quite ecstatic either. The best way to find out what type of girl you are dealing with is the length of time it takes until she drops the boyfriend.
The longer amount of time until she drops the bomb, the better. It's best if she doesn't mention the boyfriend at all and you learn from a third party. Think about that for a second… if a girl is happy with her man, he will keep popping up in her head, leading to a large amount of guilt when talking to a player she is attracted to. She attempts to relieve this guilt by mentioning him as much as possible in the conversation.
The sooner she mentions him and the more times she mentions him, the less likely you will get anywhere. This should be your guide to see if you should commit to gaming a girl with a boyfriend, especially since they will take more work than a single girl.
On the other hand if it takes a girl over 20 minutes for her to drop the boyfriend, consider her breakable. Now combine that with her engaging you, making eye contact, asking your questions, and touching you. The more she does any of these things, the less issue the boyfriend is and more you can proceed as you normally do.
It takes a little experience to tell between the girls who flirt just to feel attractive and girls who want to get banged by a new dick, but you'll know for sure when you go to number or kiss close; one will put up Great Wall of China resistance and the other will only offer token resistance.
If the approach is going well and things are progressing past the thirty minute mark, just keep doing what you're doing and go for the kiss on the same night. When you get in close she will make a verbal objection about having a boyfriend but just like you would do if she was resisting in the bedroom, simply agree with her so she doesn't think further about it in her mind.
Don't make it a tug of war, but then of course you try again a few minutes later, breaking down the resistance. If she says she can't do anything with you, just say you weren't trying anyway with a smile. But keep pushing until you get it.
For girls that seem to be breakable but not easy, the only way to it is through regular access. If you work with her or see her weekly, then repeated access to her will nibble at her resistance until she just goes through with it. It's because she can't just forget about you or un-attract herself to you. But if you meet her one night in the club and just get her number, the seduction is over because she won't allow her to see you without feeling like a cheat. Every extra minute she hangs with you and a minute's worth exposure of your game that will help your cause.
Bottom line is if she puts herself in a position to cheat, she will cheat, and you should take full advantage of it. I found this all out the hard way years ago when I believed the best way to get a girl with a boyfriend was to first be her "friend." I don't think I need to tell you how far that got me, with all those wasted nights talking on the phone about the problems she is going with the guy that she is having sex with. It was an embarrassing period of my life and I try not to think about it.
It wasn't until my first success with an engaged girl at work (years after experimenting with every technique out there), that I first learned how having access is critical to getting with desirable girls who were already taken. And with girls after, I learned that with them you must grow on her gradually like a fungus. Eventually, if your game is tight, she will make it all too easy for things to progress.
About Author: Rooshv is a straight-talking PUA who happens to also have a degree in microbiology. After starting the successful blog DC Bachelor (which he later changed to Roosh V out of fear that his employers would fire him for the ideas he published) he switched careers and became a full-time sex & dating blogger and guru. His first book is called "Bang". While finishing up work on his second book, he is steadily blogging and leading workshops for men on how to get laid.
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Hey Auther, your a fucking asshole! Where is your humanity? Whats the matter, afraid of commitment? Jealous of those who are trying for commitment? Have a GF cheat on you in the past is it?? Imagine you had a girlfriend that you loved and you found out some dude was trying to pick her up, the same way that your intentions are the pick up a girl who has a BF or engaged! Seriously Fuck you!
This is not the way, to pick up a girl who will cheat on her boyfriend, means that when you fall for her, she will do exactly the same thing to you…Karma will bite your face off..its happened to me…
Why would anyone want to hit on a person because they are in a vulnerable position is beyond me.
Tina,
The article is for those who don't care about the other party. This is for anyone who will selfishly try to 'make' the other person want them. So don't discriminate.
Do not also confuse; I would never try to woo - even if I wanted this girl more than anything else in the world - in order for her to be mine. Simply, anything that requires work to overcome another man or woman to get to this supposed 'soul mate' is only for superficial purposes. Anyone who's experienced true love can agree. If she's worth the effort, period, then she'd already want to be with you.
I met someone online whom I had a very deep and intense connection with. We couldn't see each other, so it added to the angst and romance of it all but after trying to stay out of contact to eliminate the pain so many times we came to the conclusion that we were meant for each other - at least I thought so. I was in the military; once I was out I tried hard to get things in order to see her from a state away, where she lived. Personal details aside, she wasn't very communicative with her emotions (I understood, she was a girl) but over the phone and online made it seem selfish of her. She'd hold grudges, wouldn't let me explain myself or try to understand me as I tried to understand her. This was over time. Eventually, I finally moved but before I left she told me she had a boyfriend. When I got there, she said that "he was someone she's just fucking with." Messing with me the whole time, stringing me along while she dated this other person, a pseudo intellectual who she proclaimed believed in "peace and love" while she believed in "chaos." I'm not even going to explain how immature she is, along with him. Long story short, and skipping great details, I literally never thought I could feel so much pain and disappointment to the point where I thought I was going to pass out from crying, or just insanity. I'm still not completely over it. I don't even know why I put myself through that. I never got to enjoy being single and my military life, get laid and have a great time like one of the guys. I spent years wondering, waiting, worrying in pain because I thought I had to meet this person. I wasn't going to let her go.
Moral and point: She was a whore the whole time, at least in waiting. I'm fairly intelligent - I don't blame myself. I know how far I will go for someone I truly care about.
Once I applied more logic to it, the pain began to lessen, and I realized that if she would leave me after all that time, even as we were about to meet in person, okay with not meeting at all, and in addition to all of that, talking to me like nothing was going on while she fucked this guy - then why would I ever want to be with her? Try and 'win her back?'
Tina makes a good point: If you have to win someone over, or steal her, and you succeed, you only succeed with acquiring a whore by your side. If you can do it, anyone other guy with game can do it. I'm sure if I worked my ass off to look killer, have killer game and set things up in a killer way, win her over, and get back with her by stealing her from another man - I'd feel empty. What a totally empty endeavor. Never be in a relationship with someone like that. Just fuck them or drop them.
I think it's important to make sure that she doesnt feel BAD for wanting to be with you rather than her boyfriend. It's relatively easy to get the attraction but the real problem is making her confortable with the idea that she could possibly leave him for you…
If you do pick her up then there is always that lingering feeling that she could leave YOU for some other guy who does the same thing
i liked it dear , and its happening eveerywhere in the world where a girl a dating more than one boy , take a survey on your own you will know .
I had a really pretty girl friend , but one day i saw him with a new boy ! she left me without any reason . Before that she always said me she loves me but she left me .
I don't know why she did , but i know even she loves me know and me too .
Yes tina you are very right, i would never want to get close to a girl i stole off some other guy cause chances are shell do the same to you. I was left for another guy for no reason at all and it hurt more than anything and i couldnt imagine doing the same thing to somebody else.
screw you tina
this was the best artice i ever read im not even joking
i dated a girl for 2 years and then i moved far away, so we sitll have feelings for each other. Except shes dating someone; how do you think I feel? i want her to be mine but shes someone elses.
i dont care about the other mann imma do what i have to do to get back what is mine
so dont just judge, sometimes you need to play hard ball
thanks for teh great advice man
Great tips, doc!
Dear Tina, of course girls will never cheat and wives will never ever be unfaithful to their spouses. That is because women are *better* than men… rrrrright.
hey, have you lost your brain? To advise people to date a girl who has a bf, so disguisting. If you really find such a stupid girl who will leave her guy for another just like that without any reason I really cannot understand why YOU want to be with such a girl. It is the same like meeting a prostitute, she will go with every guy. If I were a man I would never ever want such a girl, it is not possible to trust her.